Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Transfer of vehicle to Pune from other state - updated on June 02/08

So after getting NOC from Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, Next step was to re-register bike in Pune, I needed to deal with RTO, Pune, Maharashtra, Compare to hyd RTO, I found pune RTO to be much clumsier, full of agents, no PRO to get information with. still able to get information about what to do.
When I went to RTO, I was surrounded by Agents, who were demandeing 2000 Rs apart from all other taxes. I think doing it yourself should be much better as it does gives you experience of working with government offices. also after doing all hard work while getting NOC from hyd, I thought this should be miniscule task. so Wanted to do it myself.
After enquiring further, I came to know that person called Mr. Pazze handles all matters about vehicle outside Maharashtra, So I went to him and He handed me a document listing all the following. He is key person in carrying out this whole work. He will describe you whole procedure with very cool head and seems to be quite nice guy.
  1. NOC from original state where vehicle belongs(in my case Hyd, AP). 2 copies original
  2. RC book original, registration card
  3. Vehicle Insurance
  4. Invoice receipt – vehicle purchase dealer receipt
  5. Entry tax , in case when you bring the vehicle before 30 months of registration date.
  6. Address proof where you are staying currently with photo
  7. Affidavit of non-stolen vehicle by registered owner
  8. Form. No 26,27, 20,33 . you will get these forms free at rto.
  9. Pencil chassis print – 5 original
  10. NOC from Police Commisioner pune.
  11. Registration fee- 320
  12. 7 % for invoice cost as registration
You can refund previous paid tax by applying at Hydrabad.
He asked me to get the affidavit on 20 Rs stamp paper. so I went outside, was inquiring abt affidavit, one person demanded me Rs 200 per affidavit and I asked some other person he was taking 100 Rs so I asked him to do the work. so while having conversation with him, I came to know that He also had reregistered his vehicle but through agents and in turn paid quite big amount to get the work done, he was happy knowing that I am doing work myself not through RTO agent.
In pt. 10. to get NOC from Police Commisioner pune., you need a letter from RTO. You will get this letter from Mr. Pazze, after showing him all the above docs, after verifying docs, he will give you a letter from RTO to Commissioner of police, You need to give it in Commissioner of police office with xerox of NOC from hyd, and residential proof. and after 7 working days you will get the NOC from Pune police. The concerned person is Mr. Chavan. He will issue you NOC in 10 minutes, if everything is ok.
Then you need to submit all of above docs to Mr. Pazze and he will check the things and you need to get assessement done from counter 30/31( i think). then after getting how much amount you need to pay, you need to pay tax at counter 23/24 (i think..). and then re submit docs along with receipt of tax payment to Mr. Pazze. He will ask you to see him after 1 and half months.
So till now, it took around 2 weeks to get this much work done.
So finally I got my docs back from RTO officer, after that I had to go to alandi office to acquire a sign from RTO officer who checks the vehicles and gives you back the paper which takes 1 hours.
Now I need to give this docs back to RTO and get New maharashtra registration number and then apply for tax refund from hyderabad office.
I have written this blog in 2007. RTO procedure might have underwent some changes. if any of you go to RTO and find something is changed, I do request you to add comment or post link to your blog to help people who read this blog.
please post comments, if you have any queries. also if you know anything more than whats written here, please let us know. we would like to hear from you.

56 comments:

Darshan said...

dude !!! nice to c that some one had taken the initiative to put their experience on Web. gr8 4 ppl .. like me now who is trying to do the formalities and not knowing what to do .. give me ur mail address .. mine is n.sudarshan@yahoo.com .. i need to talk to yu abt this .. ciao .. bye

Darshan said...

dude !!! nice to c that some one had taken the initiative to put their experience on Web. gr8 4 ppl .. like me now who is trying to do the formalities and not knowing what to do .. give me ur mail address .. mine is n.sudarshan@yahoo.com .. i need to talk to yu abt this .. ciao .. bye

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I should appreciate that you have taken sometime to actually list down the procedure. I went to PCMC RTO office today. I hope it all works to be the same.

Anonymous said...

Nice attempt ... and real thanks to explain this much here in your blog. I got started on thinking in this lines now. So, Have you received the NOC now? I think its about 1.5 months since you posted this.

CA Narayan Abhyankar said...

Hi,

Thanks a ton for the info man!!!
Can you share your mail id? I need to ask you few other things as to total cost you incurred to do all this. Also Do we get our number changed to MH 12 etc or the number will remain same.
Hope to read you more soon!!

Thanks,
Narayan
abhyankarnarayan@yahoo.co.in

apteluguwala said...

Hi Sandip,
Thanq very much for sharing valuable information. Small clarification, my bike is now at Bangalore without NOC from AP. Shall it required to show my bike to Police/RTA official to take NOC.

Madhu Daparthi!
Bangalore.

Sandip More said...

Hi Madhu,
In RTA office you dont need to show bike as I explicitly asked them and although police asked me about my bike but never actually had a look at a bike, and I doubt they were asking that question to demand more money from me.


Thanks
Sandip

Unknown said...

Hi Madhu

Thanks for the information can i get address of pune RTA office.
Pls give me ur mail id.
my email id is: rajnarimeti@gmail.com

Unknown said...

Hi Sandeep,
Thanks for all the information u have provided.
I need one more information can i get the address of pune RTA office.

Thanks,
Rajesh

Anonymous said...

hi sandip i am also a noc seeker my experience was very bad.
getting noc form Andhra Pradesh RR distict RTO is nothing like toucher for an innocent person. i spent 3 weeks around E-seva counters, local police station, cyberabad commissionarate office, and RR district RTO, but their attitude is not at all good, i don't know how the people surviving there, AP road transport Authority should take some action to get things easier.

Sandip More said...

Actually My experience with RR rto ,Commisioner office and eseva counter was quite good, I faced problem only while getting NOC from local police station, I think you might be talking with wrong people.
btw who are you? are you from AP or from some other state and do you know telugu?

Anonymous said...

Hi,

Thanks a Million, for the info provided above and I salute your spirit to face all this bureaucracy yourself and avoid getting swindled by agents.

Its now almost April and I wanted to know whether you have got a MH-12 Number for the vehicle yet? Also, how much did the whole thing cost you and what was the original cost of the bike? My RTO agent is asking for 7000/- plus sales tax!!!! So for my bullet, it will cost me 14,000/- to transfer!!!!

Anyways, keep up the good work, Good Luck and God Bless!

Sandip More said...

not yet :(( as I am not getting time to visit RTO. actually one process is left, pune rto has sent verification letter to hyd rto and waiting for their response, as didnt get response to letter sent in jan so that office sent it again. and also handed a copy of that letter to me to get it signed from hyd rto but that letter has clause saying that if hyd people do not respond in 30 days, pune rto can go ahead and work.. i think it should work..i just need to take some time out of my schedule to do followup..my bike's cost was 57k and i paid arnd 3.5 k tax in pune. it is less than what i paid in hyd.
also I need to see how do i get refund of tax i paid in hyd.

Sandip More said...

also please post comment with your real name, it helps to make new friends..:)

Anonymous said...

Hi Sandip,i'm also from hyd.please give me your mail id...i would like to talk to you about this...my mail id is- vamshikalwakolu@gmail.com

Atul Ghate said...

HI! Sandeep,
I am not sure if you will read this but I will take chance.

I have exact same case. Moved my vehicle from hyd to pune only except that I used agent in pune instead since most of the folks told me its impossible to do it on my own.

I have paid taxes and still wating for registration number for 4 months now.

My agent says he has to get papers from RTO Pune and then I need to show vehicle at rto for inspection. I am baffled with situation right now since I don't even have my RC in hand right now. And I have feeling that my agent is doing time feeling.

My question: Did you get any reciept (My agent wouldn;t say anything about this) when you submitted documents to Pazze for registration.
I would love to see your reply.

Atul Ghate.
atul.ghate@capgemini.com

Sandip More said...

Hi atul,
yes I have receipt of fees which I had paid to rto,
but I dont have any receipt of documents which I submitted to Pazze.

actually even after paying taxes there is a procedure where pune rto people send a letter to hyd rto for validation of NOC, which takes time.
even in my case they didnt received when I went there pazze told me that he will send it again and we should wait for response.
so this thing is taking time in my case.


and meanwhile I got busy with work so didnt get time to followup with him, but I am planning to visit rto this week. so will post
as soon as I get any updates.

btw how much did you pay agent for this work?

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I have got the NOC from bangalore for the vehicle,
The Issue is, I would be staying in pune only for about 8-10 months, not even a year !
Do I still have to pay life tax ?

Is there a way out by paying tax for a year and then extend it if the bike stays back after that time ?
Could you please guide me with this , cos I have no plans of staying in pune for more than a year...
my email id : gururaj.r9@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

Hi all
I have been riding my bike since 2002 in Maharashtra and has always been bribing traffic police walas with 50 to 250 and till now I have not paid more than Rs. 1000.
Now after reading couple of threads like this I am even more convinced that my way is better.
Every thread I have read till now says that they have either not been able to complete the process or equilant after paying Rs2000 or more.... my recommendation take a chill pill.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Sandip for posting such a valuable information. I have shifted from Hyderabad to Pune and I am having NOC Issued in March. Could you please provide me some more information about the address & procedure for NOC from Police Commisioner pune, address of RTO Pune. What is Entry tax , in case when you bring the vehicle before 30 months of registration date. I bought my bike in Oct 2006. Where should I pay this & how much.

Could you please give me your mail/contact address for further information.

Regards,
Ramesh
Mail id : ramesh_biotech@yahoo.co.in

Sandip More said...

if you are staying in wakad/pimple saudagar side, just contact some local driving school to know whether it is Pimpri chinchwad or Pune rto, you need to. In case of pune rto, its on the way from shivajinagar to pune station.

Prashanth M.S said...

Hi,
I have got the NOC from bangalore for the bike. But I would be staying in pune only for about 8-10 months.
Do I have to pay life tax and change registration?

my email id : prashanthms@gmail.com

Thanks,
Prashanth

Sandip More said...

hey prashant,
sorry as I do not have information for this. but you can ask any trafic policeman, he will tell you.

Prashanth M.S said...

Hi Sandeep,

Thanks for the quick reply. I will check with traffic policeman.

Anonymous said...

Hi Sandip,

Do you have idea about obtaining NOC from Pune for getting vehicle transferred to other state.
Please reply asap.

Thanks in advance.

Sandip More said...

No I dont have idea but approximately procedure should be same. and few of my friends obtained NOC without facing any issue in pune.

Anonymous said...

Can you please send me the contact number of any of your friend who did the same process at my id: somil.soni@wipro.com

Thanks again.

Unknown said...

Sandip,
You said that the registration cost is 7% of invoice amount. What is the vehicle is 7 years old. Then what will be the registration amount based on?

Sunil

Sandip More said...

7% of invoice is what written on the document given to me by RTO official, Not said by me. There was no clause about age of vehicle. and I think you can apply for refund of original tax paid.

Anonymous said...

Hi All,
I have transferred my bike(pulsar-150) from Hyderabad to Kolkata in July-2007. Getting NOC from Hyderabad was easy. It cost me around Rs 500. But here in Kolkata, we have to depend on Agents only. And one agent charged me Rs 10000 for re-registation. Luckly I had my relative in Durgapur and hence I could complete the whole process with only Rs 5000 from Durgapur RTO. Moreover, since I'll get my life time tax refunded from Hyderabad RTO(I'll get around 4000 from Rs 5000 that I paid), I think my expense is effectively Rs 1000.
But the problem is here again now. I may relocate to Bangalore/Pune. This time I have decided not to follow the law. I'll try to get my work done by bribing policemen with some 100-200 and I believe, even in 2 years I won't be giving more than Rs 1000 as fine.

Rajat

Sandip More said...

hi rajat,

I know the process is too cumbersome. I think being an Indian citizen, you should be allowed to take your vehicle anywhere in India. they should amend law.
Yeah you can get away with paying fine.

Anonymous said...

what if I have lost the original invoice? How do I go ahead then?

Sandip More said...

se,
I dont know abt this particular case, I think to deal with lost documents that you make affidavit. but best way is you ask RTO officials.

Anonymous said...

Hi Sandeep. Thanks a ton. I am moving to mumbai soon. I have had quiet a bit of experience in dealing with gov.offices. I had to run around a lot just to findout the right procedure to follow.

Appreciate ur taking time to list this out so clearly. Thanks again. I'm Jay: JayMKV@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

Also, would you happen to know the process for getting 'All india permit?' - Jay.

Anonymous said...

Sandip,
My name is Jos. I moved from Hyd to Blore some time back and got my vehicle registered in Blore. Actually, I haven’t changed the nbr. But, paid the K’taka tax and got the address changed. Now, how do I get the tax refund from Hyd? Did you manage to get this done? Please let me know if you know the procedure.
Jos

Janit said...

Thanx for all the information buddy. You are utilising the true power of blogging. Giving us information needed badly. Actually its the RTO that sucks. But people like you are torchbearers. Keep on with the good work man.

Anonymous said...

Can you provide the procedure to get NOC from Cyberabad Police? I am getting confusing pointers - one person says go to local police station and another one says go to the Police commissioners's office?
Did you do it yourself or through an agent?

Sandip More said...

I did it myself. check this out http://www.rightprocedure.com/?p=19

Anonymous said...

Dude great job :-) I got all the info regarding transfer of vehicle.

Hey se like to know did you have any info on your lost invoice.
My case is somewhat similar to you I did not take invoice from my dealer, and now it is almost 1.6 yrs that I purchased my 2wheeler from Bangalore.

So after going through Sandip’s blog I found that I did not took invoice from my dealer in Bangalore. I am in Pune and I also trying to get my 2wheeler re-registered.
Hey Sandip did you have any idea on Entry tax for vehicle in Maharashtra as one of the RTO agent was saying it is 22.3% for vehicle less than 3yrs old?

I am thankful for your blog man, it was very helpful.

Unknown said...

I have one question, i want to transfer my bike from gurgaon to Pune, so far the tax calculated on it is 3100, when I asked my agent that whether he has paid the tax, he came up to me that since my bike is new I have to pay entry tax which is 1500. Can you please suggest what are the rules for paying the sales tax. My bike is 34 months old and when i take NOC from gurgaon It was 32 months old.
Please pass on the info.....tnx

VN said...

I have shared my experience on vehicle transfer to Mumbai. Also have briefed the steps about the same at

http://www.prasnah.com/blog/2009/03/20090331_transfer_vehicle.html

Rammohan said...

visit right procedure button / link not working ... i want to know the procedure... Can you help

Rammohan
rammohann79@hotmail.com

Sandip More said...

I dont know why are you unable to access the link

just check http://rightprocedure.org

go to topics tab.

Sorry for inconvenience.

Anonymous said...

Hello
Taking NOC is not a difficult thing.
Recently I obtained Noc for my vehicle at Chennai to come to Andhra.
Initially obtained Police verification certificate form Commissioner of Police office.A separate cell is there to issue Verification certificate.If you apply in the morning after paying Rs.20 fee alongwith required documents,they will deliver certificate in the Evening.Expenses only Rs.20.Like that every place there will be separate cell in Police HQ.
Next step is submitted required documents alongwith police verification certificate in RTO office after paying official fee of Rs.100.RTO issued NOC within 72 hours.
I have not incurred any extra expenditure.It is my acual experience.Dont approach any agent.They will exaggerate problems and try to get maximum money.
Better meet RTO / his PA / Superintendant and get clear guidance instead of approaching Agents.
Whenever go on transfer obtain NOC before leaving the place.NOC has to be obtained from the place of Vehicle original registration.
If you get transfer before Re-Registration in shorte period again you have to get cancelled from the original issue place and obtain fresh NOC from the Vehicle Registration RTO.
I hope I have provided ome information on this subject.If you want Some more detailed information Verify in Govt.WEBSITE.

Sandip More said...

Thanks anonymous for latest updates on NOC process.

Anonymous said...

Hi all,

I have a ptoblem regarding car transfer. I am planning to transfer car from hyderabad to chennai. It is registered on my brothers name. I got NOC from hyderabad RTO.
Is it possible to re-register car in chennai on my name in my brothers absence.

Sandip More said...

anonymous,
I think yes, you can change it to your name. check it with RTO.

Unknown said...

Hi Sandip

I purchased my friends bike two months back. I got from 29 and form 30 c signed from him to get it transfered on my name.
I did not went for transfer, now my companyhas transfered me to mumbai.Please let me know what steps i need to follow issue is i am moving out of bangalore this weekend.

Gaurav

Sandip More said...

Gaurav,
As per I know, Bangalore RTO people are pretty smart and I think you just go and visit the RTO. You will get your work done in a week.
I think you just need to get NOC. to transfer ownership and take your bike to mumbai.


regards,
Sandip

Unknown said...

Dear Sandip,

You made life easy for most of the info seekers on this blog. I read a few from them. I've something similar (or rather big) problem w/my car. I bought a car in Dec'09 in Rajasthan and I stay in Pune. Question is same, transfer of car to Pune. I came to know, there are two solutions for this question, (a) Transfer the care w/new MH12 number here and pay all the road taxes, etc. and (b) not to change its number but just pay road tax.

The car is new so if I only pay road taxes, I'll have to pay some 20% (12.5% service tax & 7% road tx) of the actual cost which is a huge amount. And if I go for changing its number, all my paid insurance & tax in Rajasthan will go wasted and I'll have to pay again a huge amount.

Now here is a constraint, if I want to stay in Pune for next couple of years, what should be the ideal thing I can do. Drive car without anything or just w/NOC or something like that?

Please provide inputs guys. Thanks much in advance!

~Himanshu

Anonymous said...

Hey Himanshu , I have also the same problem. Did u get any breakthrough ??

Pritesh Saharey said...

There are few changes gone into the procedure now,
1. Address proof for the guys staying in rented apartments should either have registered rent agreement or should carry police verification application photo copy which your landlord would have done this is the major change of found in current procedure.
2. You need NCRB Vehicle Enquiry Report from http://ncrb.nic.in/ (National Crime Record Bureau), on this site you need to click on language in which you want to surf this site, after selection of language you will be taken to main page on left hand side click on link “MV Data” this will open a new window here on top click on “Vehicle enquiry” go to “Stolen” put details of your vehicle like “Motor Vehicle Reg. no.”, “Chassis no.” and “Engine no.” this will give you details that whether this vehicle is stolen or not, you need to take print out this page.
3. All photocopy documents needs to be duly attested by gazetted officer (You can find one of this guy in downstairs parking of Pune RTO office, he stands near pillar marked 3, he will charge you based on number of documents you have)

On the issue of NOC (Form.28) expiration I did not found any trouble at RTO my NOC was issued from Bangalore RTO on 31, Aug 2008 and I went to Pune RTO for my passing on 01 Jan, 2010, today 22 June, 2010 I paid my taxes and now I am free to drive my Bajaj Discover in Pune, Mr. Pazze got transferred now there is Mr. Bagde who handles all other state registration department they call this procedure as RMA, Mr. Bagde has asked me to come after 45 days.

For the guys who lost their vehicle invoice:
First scenario: You purchased your vehicle and your vehicle is already 30 months older so now you are moving to Pune then you don’t need invoice, you can simply go to RTO and file for re-registration
Second Scenario: You purchased your vehicle and still the vehicle is not older than 30 months you move to Pune above that you lost your invoice then guys you need to get a duplicate invoice from your dealer from where you have purchased your vehicle, after getting duplicate invoice you need to go to “Sales Tax Office” in Yerwada with photo copy of following documents to get “Entry Tax NOC of Maharashtra State”:
1. Tax Invoice (vehicle invoice)
2. Form28
3. RC/TC book
4. Driving Licence
5. ID proof (Passport/Voters ID etc)
6. Rent Agreement
7. Electricity bill
8. Company letter with address proof

When you have all these documents, the sales tax inspector will verify your invoice by calling the dealer on the phone number mentioned on invoice so ensure that the phone number mentioned on invoice are working if not get alternate number from dealer in advance, after this he will ok your papers, now it’s time to calculate VAT so one of the clerk will see how much VAT that state is charging from where you bought the vehicle if there is a difference then you will have to pay the difference otherwise nothing has to pay, in my case Karnataka and Maharashtra charges the same VAT which is 12.5% so I did not have to pay any VAT after this clerk will issue the NOC from Sales Tax office duly signed by Sales Tax officer, before moving out of sales tax office check properly that on your NOC letter contains vehicle Chassis and Engine number correctly.

Sales Tax Office address:
Shastri Nagar, Yerwada, Pune, Maharashtra
020 26680478

Sandip More said...

Thanks pritesh for latest information.

~Pp said...

Unfortunately, I went through the registration process and got stuck at the 45 day stage. When I went to RTO, they are saying that the documents are missing.

However, i have the xerox of all the documents but still, please help how to proceed from here? Any way to cancel this registration and have the same number with the tax already payed in MH and can drive safely in MH roads?

mail me at: pallav.porwal@gmail.com

Thanks

Sandip More said...

Hi pallav, Its unfortunate, but I faintly remember, I also faced similar issue but it does happen. You just need to persist.

Btw is the process still same?